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Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 17 April 2024 14:00UTC

  • 1.  Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 17 April 2024 14:00UTC

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    Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 17 April 2024 14:00UTC

    http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=2024-04-17T14:00:00

    Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

     

    Participation

     

    Todd Albers

    Craig Atkinson

    Kenneth Bengtsson (chair)

    Erlend Klakegg Bergheim

    Paul Donohoe

    Sander Fieten

    Ken Holman

    Yves Jordan

    Ole Madsen

    Natalie Muric

     

    Regrets:

     

    Kees Duvekot

     

    Referencing the specification

     

    One of the following should be used as a specific citation:

    OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.4

    OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.3

    OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2

    OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)

    The following would be used for a general (any version) citation:

    OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)

    The canonical 2.4 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

    http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/cs01-UBL-2.4/

    The canonical 2.3 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

    http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.3/

    The canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

    http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/

    The canonical 2.1 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

    http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/

    The ISO/IEC catalogue entry for UBL 2.1 is found at:

    http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm/?csnumber=66370

    The ISO/IEC document and attachments for UBL 2.1 are found at:

    http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/

     

    Standing items

     

    Additions to events calendar - http://ubl.xml.org/events

    Nothing

     

    Wikipedia page

    Updates and maintenance of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Business_Language

     

    Review of Atlantic call minutes

    Minutes available under "Discussion" in the new Community Workspace: https://groups.oasis-open.org/communities/community-home/digestviewer?communitykey=556949c8-dac8-40e6-bb16-018dc7ce54d6

     

    Membership status review

    https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership

     

    New member orientation information:

    https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647

     

    Voting status is determined by the following:

    existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to maintain voting status

    non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain voting status

    members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and their voting status is not impacted

     

    Current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical):

     

    Todd Albers

    Member of X9, X12 B2X, ISO 20022 Payment SEG, OASIS BDXR, and convenor of the Business Payments Coalition e-Invoice work groups

    Craig Atkinson

    Kenneth Bengtsson

    Chair OASIS BDXR TC, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT

    Erlend Klakegg Bergheim

    Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS, Member CEN/TC434/WS8

    Peter Borresen

    DK Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG7

    Andrea Caccia

    Kees Duvekot

    Member OASIS BDXR, Member of the NEN TC 434

    Sander Fieten

    Cochair OASIS ebXML Messaging Services TC, Cochair OASIS BDXR TC

    Ken Holman

    Member OASIS BDXR, member OASIS Code List Representation TC

    Yves Jordan

    Ole Madsen

    DK Member CEN/TC440

    Natalie Muric

     

    TC Vitality Check

    The TC must next appoint or reappoint chair(s) in January 2025.

    Next TC vitality check must be made in January 2025.

     

    ICC Standards Presentation

     

    New document types added to UBL 2.4 are not referenced from the ICC document. Peter has contacted Harm Jan to seek access to the group. Craig will liaise with the group to get the document updated.

     

    Updated entry to the UNESCAP database: https://www.digitalizetrade.org/implementation-instrument/universal-business-language-ubl

     

    Budapest Face-to-face Meeting

     

    Tentative agenda posted here: https://groups.oasis-open.org/discussion/tentative-agenda-for-the-may-27-to-may-30-ubl-face-to-face-meeting#bmc5fb8cc7-d648-437a-a95e-31675fa824d3

     

    UBL 2.4

     

    Public review of UBL 2.4 as candidate OASIS Standard has been published and will run until May 26. Announcement: https://www.oasis-open.org/2024/04/02/invitation-to-comment-on-universal-business-language-v2-4-before-call-for-consent-as-oasis-standard/

     

    Comments must be submitted to the email address:

    Technical-Committee-Comments@oasis-open.org

    and can be viewed here:

    https://groups.google.com/a/oasis-open.org/g/technical-committee-comments/

     

    UBL 2.5

     

    Deprecation Policy

     

    The TC has approved a UBL Deprecation Policy version 1.0 available here:

    https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=71497&wg_abbrev=ubl (PDF)

    https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=71496&wg_abbrev=ubl (ODT)

     

    Publishing tools

     

    Implement deprecation support in the UBL tools and publishing environment.

     

    Erlend has presented a strawman proposal for a YAML-format for documenting 2.5 work: https://github.com/klakegg/oasis-ubl-model. Agreed that the functionality added by a structured format adds value, not least when adding the complexity of deprecated components. A "front end" layer will be needed for business users to maintain the files.

     

    Master spreadsheets for UBL 2.5 are available here:

    Library elements: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18o1YqjHWUw0-s8mb3ja4i99obOUhs-4zpgso6RZrGaY/

    Document elements: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1024Th-Uj8cqliNEJc-3pDOR7DxAAW7gCG4e-pbtarsg/

     

    Ken has created a list of changes based on Definition and Cardinality that can be used to populate the "Last change" column: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202401/msg00013.html. Kenneth will work on updating the spreadsheet models.

     

    Workgroup participants: Erlend and Kees.

     

    Semantic library review

     

    Documents reviewed by the TC:

     

    ApplicationResponse

    AttachedDocument

    DocumentStatus

    DocumentStatusRequest

     

    UBL 2.5 issues:

     

    UBL-357, ESG Information elements and DPP:

    https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-357

    See also: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202401/msg00018.html

    The TC agrees that UBL shall facilitate the requirements of the digital product passport. A new Product Passport document type will be developed for UBL 2.5.

    Ole reported that the Danish authorities are initiating work with product passport and other ESG reporting

    We need a new Github branch to allow us to test the data models.

    Next WBCSD workshop on packaging is Thursday next week (April 18).

    Agreed to request a formal liaison with the WBCSD. Kenneth will add a formal motion to the agenda if there is mutual interest from the WBCSD.

     

    UBL-375, Standardize use of ApplicationResponse, DocumentStatus, EnquiryResponse, DocumentStatusRequest, and Enquiry:

    https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-375

    Identified that the use of ApplicationResponse in the Billing diagrams (figures 77, 78 and 79) is incorrect. Kenneth will open a separate ticket.

     

    UBL-376, Deprecate AttachedDocument document type:

    https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-376

    Cecile will reach out to the European Commission to ask for the status of its use.

     

    UBL-377, new InvoiceResponse document type:

    https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-377

     

    Review ISO 22385 to identify any potential relations. Kenneth will open a new ticket.

     

    Agreed to review supplementary components at our next face-to-face meeting, i.e., the XML attributes listed here: https://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/cs01-UBL-2.4/UBL-2.4.html#T-UBL-UNQUALIFIED-DATA-TYPES

     

    Can we make a tool that users can run in their local environments to create a report about the use of supplementary components?

    Creating a stylesheet to extract the information is simple, but how do we get it out to the users? And what will we use the results for?

    Peter will contact users of UBL to assess how much information we would be able to harvest.

     

    Specification review

     

    Divide specification into multiple parts. Aim is to create a multipart specification.

     

    Kenneth will identify the normative parts of the prose specification and create a first draft.

     

    Workgroup participants: Kees, Kenneth, Levine, and Paul.

     

    JSON syntax binding

     

    Develop specification for a UBL JSON syntax binding.

     

    Workgroup participants: Erlend and Kenneth.

     

    Product Circularity Datasheet

     

    Andrea, Kees, Natalie, and Kenneth met with the PCDS team last week. Agreed that Kenneth will create a draft PCDS document type based on "header" information provided by PCDS, and Kees will set up a new Github branch so that we can produce the artefacts.

     

    Pending updated Github to be able to produce PCDS prototype. Ken will reach out to Kees to continue work on the 2.5 branch.

     

    Subcommittee reports

     

    UBL Post-award

     

    Nothing

     

    UBL Pre-award

     

    Nothing

     

    UBL Transportation Subcommittee (TSC)

     

    The TSC met March 5, 2024. Discussion about deprecating Freight Invoice, and Waybill or Bill of Lading. Peter will send out meeting minutes.

     

    The next TSC meeting will be later this month (Peter will send out the invite with agenda).

     

    Organisation Master Data Subcommittee

     

    Nothing

     

    Payments and Finance SC

     

    Nothing

     

    TC Liaisons

     

    CEN TCs 434 and 440

     

    Agreed at the Copenhagen face-to-face meeting that the UBL TC is open to establish a formal liaison with CEN TC 434 to create a European or international standard for electronic invoicing, if there is an interest from the CEN TC.

     

    OASIS has reported that there is an agreement on a way forward. The TC has agreed to appoint Wim Kok liaison officer to the CEN TC 434, and Peter Borresen as liaison officer to the CEN TC 440, as recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202301/msg00017.html. The appointments have been communicated to OASIS.

     

    ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32/WG 1

     

    Decision to appoint Andrea as liaison representative between ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32 and the TC recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202007/msg00014.html

     

    Last year's SC 32 meeting was held on June 2022. OASIS should have been following up with the SC 32 secretariat last year but still no progress. Jamie will follow up with SC 32.

     

    ISO TC 323 (WG5)

     

    Decision to appoint Andrea as liaison representative between ISO TC 323 (WG5) and the TC recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202402/msg00004.html

     

    Subcommittee conference calls

     

    Subcommittees will be meeting on an as-required basis.

     

    TC conference call schedule

     

    Face-to-face meeting

     

    Time and venue for next face-to-face meeting?

     

    Spring meeting:

    Budapest, May 27-30, 2024.

     

    Fall meeting:

    Confirmed that Logius will host us in The Hague November 11-14, 2024.

     

    Call schedule

     

    Agreed to temporarily suspend the Pacific calls while we have no participants from the Pacific region. Pacific calls will be reinstated upon request from any TC member.

     

    2024-04-16/2024-04-17

    Pacific: Canceled

    Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

    2024-04-23/2024-04-24

    Pacific: Canceled

    Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

    2024-04-30/2024-05-01

    Pacific: Canceled

    Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

    2024-05-07/2024-05-08

    Pacific: Canceled

    Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

    2024-05-14/2024-05-15

    Pacific: Canceled

    Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

    2024-05-21/2024-05-22

    Canceled

     

    TC calendar

     

    http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl

     

    iCal subscription link: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50

     

    Other business

     

    None

     

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