Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 17 April 2024 14:00UTC
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=2024-04-17T14:00:00
Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
Participation
Todd Albers
Craig Atkinson
Kenneth Bengtsson (chair)
Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
Paul Donohoe
Sander Fieten
Ken Holman
Yves Jordan
Ole Madsen
Natalie Muric
Regrets:
Kees Duvekot
Referencing the specification
One of the following should be used as a specific citation:
OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.4
OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.3
OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2
OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)
The following would be used for a general (any version) citation:
OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)
The canonical 2.4 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/cs01-UBL-2.4/
The canonical 2.3 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.3/
The canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/
The canonical 2.1 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/
The ISO/IEC catalogue entry for UBL 2.1 is found at:
http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm/?csnumber=66370
The ISO/IEC document and attachments for UBL 2.1 are found at:
http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/
Standing items
Nothing
Wikipedia page
Updates and maintenance of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Business_Language
Review of Atlantic call minutes
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Membership status review
https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership
New member orientation information:
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647
Voting status is determined by the following:
existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to maintain voting status
non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain voting status
members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and their voting status is not impacted
Current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical):
Todd Albers
Member of X9, X12 B2X, ISO 20022 Payment SEG, OASIS BDXR, and convenor of the Business Payments Coalition e-Invoice work groups
Craig Atkinson
Kenneth Bengtsson
Chair OASIS BDXR TC, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT
Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS, Member CEN/TC434/WS8
Peter Borresen
DK Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG7
Andrea Caccia
Kees Duvekot
Member OASIS BDXR, Member of the NEN TC 434
Sander Fieten
Cochair OASIS ebXML Messaging Services TC, Cochair OASIS BDXR TC
Ken Holman
Member OASIS BDXR, member OASIS Code List Representation TC
Yves Jordan
Ole Madsen
DK Member CEN/TC440
Natalie Muric
TC Vitality Check
The TC must next appoint or reappoint chair(s) in January 2025.
Next TC vitality check must be made in January 2025.
ICC Standards Presentation
New document types added to UBL 2.4 are not referenced from the ICC document. Peter has contacted Harm Jan to seek access to the group. Craig will liaise with the group to get the document updated.
Updated entry to the UNESCAP database: https://www.digitalizetrade.org/implementation-instrument/universal-business-language-ubl
Budapest Face-to-face Meeting
Tentative agenda posted here: https://groups.oasis-open.org/discussion/tentative-agenda-for-the-may-27-to-may-30-ubl-face-to-face-meeting#bmc5fb8cc7-d648-437a-a95e-31675fa824d3
UBL 2.4
Public review of UBL 2.4 as candidate OASIS Standard has been published and will run until May 26. Announcement: https://www.oasis-open.org/2024/04/02/invitation-to-comment-on-universal-business-language-v2-4-before-call-for-consent-as-oasis-standard/
Comments must be submitted to the email address:
Technical-Committee-Comments@oasis-open.org
and can be viewed here:
https://groups.google.com/a/oasis-open.org/g/technical-committee-comments/
UBL 2.5
Deprecation Policy
The TC has approved a UBL Deprecation Policy version 1.0 available here:
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=71497&wg_abbrev=ubl (PDF)
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=71496&wg_abbrev=ubl (ODT)
Publishing tools
Implement deprecation support in the UBL tools and publishing environment.
Erlend has presented a strawman proposal for a YAML-format for documenting 2.5 work: https://github.com/klakegg/oasis-ubl-model. Agreed that the functionality added by a structured format adds value, not least when adding the complexity of deprecated components. A "front end" layer will be needed for business users to maintain the files.
Master spreadsheets for UBL 2.5 are available here:
Library elements: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18o1YqjHWUw0-s8mb3ja4i99obOUhs-4zpgso6RZrGaY/
Document elements: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1024Th-Uj8cqliNEJc-3pDOR7DxAAW7gCG4e-pbtarsg/
Ken has created a list of changes based on Definition and Cardinality that can be used to populate the "Last change" column: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202401/msg00013.html. Kenneth will work on updating the spreadsheet models.
Workgroup participants: Erlend and Kees.
Semantic library review
Documents reviewed by the TC:
ApplicationResponse
AttachedDocument
DocumentStatus
DocumentStatusRequest
UBL 2.5 issues:
UBL-357, ESG Information elements and DPP:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-357
See also: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202401/msg00018.html
The TC agrees that UBL shall facilitate the requirements of the digital product passport. A new Product Passport document type will be developed for UBL 2.5.
Ole reported that the Danish authorities are initiating work with product passport and other ESG reporting
We need a new Github branch to allow us to test the data models.
Next WBCSD workshop on packaging is Thursday next week (April 18).
Agreed to request a formal liaison with the WBCSD. Kenneth will add a formal motion to the agenda if there is mutual interest from the WBCSD.
UBL-375, Standardize use of ApplicationResponse, DocumentStatus, EnquiryResponse, DocumentStatusRequest, and Enquiry:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-375
Identified that the use of ApplicationResponse in the Billing diagrams (figures 77, 78 and 79) is incorrect. Kenneth will open a separate ticket.
UBL-376, Deprecate AttachedDocument document type:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-376
Cecile will reach out to the European Commission to ask for the status of its use.
UBL-377, new InvoiceResponse document type:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-377
Review ISO 22385 to identify any potential relations. Kenneth will open a new ticket.
Agreed to review supplementary components at our next face-to-face meeting, i.e., the XML attributes listed here: https://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/cs01-UBL-2.4/UBL-2.4.html#T-UBL-UNQUALIFIED-DATA-TYPES
Can we make a tool that users can run in their local environments to create a report about the use of supplementary components?
Creating a stylesheet to extract the information is simple, but how do we get it out to the users? And what will we use the results for?
Peter will contact users of UBL to assess how much information we would be able to harvest.
Specification review
Divide specification into multiple parts. Aim is to create a multipart specification.
Kenneth will identify the normative parts of the prose specification and create a first draft.
Workgroup participants: Kees, Kenneth, Levine, and Paul.
JSON syntax binding
Develop specification for a UBL JSON syntax binding.
Workgroup participants: Erlend and Kenneth.
Product Circularity Datasheet
Andrea, Kees, Natalie, and Kenneth met with the PCDS team last week. Agreed that Kenneth will create a draft PCDS document type based on "header" information provided by PCDS, and Kees will set up a new Github branch so that we can produce the artefacts.
Pending updated Github to be able to produce PCDS prototype. Ken will reach out to Kees to continue work on the 2.5 branch.
Subcommittee reports
UBL Post-award
Nothing
UBL Pre-award
Nothing
UBL Transportation Subcommittee (TSC)
The TSC met March 5, 2024. Discussion about deprecating Freight Invoice, and Waybill or Bill of Lading. Peter will send out meeting minutes.
The next TSC meeting will be later this month (Peter will send out the invite with agenda).
Organisation Master Data Subcommittee
Nothing
Payments and Finance SC
Nothing
TC Liaisons
CEN TCs 434 and 440
Agreed at the Copenhagen face-to-face meeting that the UBL TC is open to establish a formal liaison with CEN TC 434 to create a European or international standard for electronic invoicing, if there is an interest from the CEN TC.
OASIS has reported that there is an agreement on a way forward. The TC has agreed to appoint Wim Kok liaison officer to the CEN TC 434, and Peter Borresen as liaison officer to the CEN TC 440, as recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202301/msg00017.html. The appointments have been communicated to OASIS.
ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32/WG 1
Decision to appoint Andrea as liaison representative between ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32 and the TC recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202007/msg00014.html
Last year's SC 32 meeting was held on June 2022. OASIS should have been following up with the SC 32 secretariat last year but still no progress. Jamie will follow up with SC 32.
ISO TC 323 (WG5)
Decision to appoint Andrea as liaison representative between ISO TC 323 (WG5) and the TC recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202402/msg00004.html
Subcommittee conference calls
Subcommittees will be meeting on an as-required basis.
TC conference call schedule
Face-to-face meeting
Time and venue for next face-to-face meeting?
Spring meeting:
Budapest, May 27-30, 2024.
Fall meeting:
Confirmed that Logius will host us in The Hague November 11-14, 2024.
Call schedule
Agreed to temporarily suspend the Pacific calls while we have no participants from the Pacific region. Pacific calls will be reinstated upon request from any TC member.
2024-04-16/2024-04-17
Pacific: Canceled
Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2024-04-23/2024-04-24
Pacific: Canceled
Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2024-04-30/2024-05-01
Pacific: Canceled
Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2024-05-07/2024-05-08
Pacific: Canceled
Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2024-05-14/2024-05-15
Pacific: Canceled
Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2024-05-21/2024-05-22
Canceled
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Other business
None